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The Oral Talmud with Benay Lappe and Dan Libenson Episode 14

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This week Dan & Benay learn with special guest scholar Ruth Calderon, author of “A Bride for One Night: Talmud Tales” (2014). In 1996, Calderon founded ALMA: A Home for Jewish Culture in Tel Aviv, where she built pathways for secular Jews to enter into Talmud study. Calderon also served on the Knesset from 2013-2015, and reflects on dynamics between secular and religious Israelis, as well as the impact of coronavirus in 2020 (when this episode was recorded).
  • How do we find our paths to Talmud?
  • What is Talmud doing that gives the sense of the Divine?
  • What does it mean to “read against grain,” and how can it help us expand our perspective?
  • What can the story Ruth brings teach us about how the Rabbis thought of approaching death?
  • Who do we see in this relationship with Death now?
An interview and learning with Ruth Calderon, founder of ALMA: Home for Hebrew Culture and former Member of Knesset, author of A Bride for One Night: Talmud Tales

מכריז רבי יוחנן הזהרו מזבובי של בעלי ראתן רבי זירא לא הוה יתיב בזיקיה רבי אלעזר לא עייל באהליה רבי אמי ורבי אסי לא הוו אכלי מביעי דההיא מבואה

ריב"ל מיכרך בהו ועסיק בתורה אמר (משלי ה, יט) אילת אהבים ויעלת חן אם חן מעלה על לומדיה אגוני לא מגנא

כי הוה שכיב אמרו ליה למלאך המות זיל עביד ליה רעותיה אזל איתחזי ליה א"ל אחוי לי דוכתאי אמר ליה לחיי א"ל הב לי סכינך דלמא מבעתת לי באורחא יהבה ניהליה כי מטא להתם דלייה קא מחוי ליה שוור נפל לההוא גיסא

נקטיה בקרנא דגלימיה א"ל בשבועתא דלא אתינא אמר קודשא בריך הוא אי איתשיל אשבועתא ניהדר אי לא לא ניהדר אמר ליה הב לי סכינאי לא הוה קא יהיב ליה נפקא בת קלא ואמרה ליה הב ניהליה דמיתבעא לברייתא מכריז אליהו קמיה פנו מקום לבר ליואי

Rabbi Yoḥanan would announce: Be careful of the flies found on those afflicted with ra’atan, as they are carriers of the disease. Rabbi Zeira would not sit in a spot where the wind blew from the direction of someone afflicted with ra’atan. Rabbi Elazar would not enter the tent of one afflicted with ra’atan, and Rabbi Ami and Rabbi Asi would not eat eggs from an alley in which someone afflicted with ra’atan lived.

Conversely, Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi would attach himself to them and study Torah, saying as justification the verse: “The Torah is a loving hind and a graceful doe” (Proverbs 5:19). If it bestows grace on those who learn it, does it not protect them from illness?

When Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi was on the verge of dying, they said to the Angel of Death: Go and perform his bidding, as he is a righteous man and deserves to die in the manner he sees fit. The Angel of Death went and appeared to him. Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi said to him: Show me my place in paradise. He said to him: Very well. Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi said to him: Give me your knife that you use to kill mortals, lest you frighten me on the way. He gave it to him. When he arrived there, in paradise, he lifted Rabbi Yehoshua so he could see his place, and he showed it to him. Rabbi Yehoshua jumped and fell into that other side, thereby escaping into paradise.

The Angel of Death grabbed him by the corner of his cloak. Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi said to him: I swear that I will not come with you. The Holy One, blessed be He, said: If he ever in his life requested dissolution concerning an oath he had taken, he must return to this world with the Angel of Death, as he can have his oath dissolved this time also. If he did not ever request dissolution of an oath, he need not return. Since Rabbi Yehoshua had in fact never requested dissolution of an oath, he was allowed to stay in paradise. The Angel of Death said to him: At least give me my knife back. However, he did not give it to him, as he did not want any more people to die. A Divine Voice emerged and said to him: Give it to him, as it is necessary to kill the created beings; death is the way of the world. Elijah the Prophet announced before him: Make way for the son of Levi, make way for the son of Levi.

References and Further Reading

[2] Ruth Calderon’s 1st Speech at the Knesset featuring a call for Talmud study and actual group Talmud study in the speech (on YouTube)
[3] Yentl, a film about a woman dressing as man to gain access to the yeshiva in the Old World (Free on TUBI) – Based on Isaac Bashevis Singer’s “Yentl, the Yeshiva Boy” short story, which is even more a trans narrative (more at the Yiddish Book Center)
[4] Oranim College/Kibbutz (their website)
[5] Elul, the Beit Midrash that RUTH Calderon founded with Moti Bar-Or (their website)
[6] Tehran, Fauda, and Shtisel are all Israeli TV Shows (more at Kveller)
[7] On Compromise (from the Jewish Virtual Library)
[8] Ruth shares a drash based on Genesis 2:23 “This-time, she-is-it! Bone from my bones, and flesh from my flesh!” (Everett Fox Translation on Sefaria)
[9] More on chaplains in Israel, tmihka ruhanit תמיכה רוחנית (article on eJewishPhilanthropy)
[10] Angel of Death in Talmud: “Entirely full of eyes” (Avodah Zarah 20b), Study as protection from the Angel of Death (Shabbat 30a-30b)
[11] The comedic actor Charlie Chaplin (blogging about his death)
[12] A Snopes article debunking a hoax announcing Woody Allen’s death (on Snopes)
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